June 2, 2023: The DeSantis-Trump cold war turns hot
The Playbook Podcast
POLITICO
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🗓️ 2 June 2023
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Presented by Altria |
| 0:01.9 | Hey, good morning. I'm Playbook Deputy Editor Zach Stanton. It's Friday, June 2nd, and there's good news this morning. |
| 0:09.9 | The United States will not be going into default. |
| 0:13.1 | Last night around 11 p.m., the Senate passed the bipartisan debt deal, sending it to President Biden's desk just in the nick of time. |
| 0:20.4 | The X-date, when the |
| 0:21.8 | Treasury would run out of money to pay bills, was this coming Monday, June 5th. The bill passed with |
| 0:27.0 | 63-Ye votes, that includes 44 Democrats, two independents, and 17 Republicans, and 36 |
| 0:33.8 | senators voted against it, but notably, if you were watching the vote, many of those |
| 0:39.4 | no votes waited until the bill hit the 60-vote threshold and was assured passage before casting |
| 0:45.4 | their ballots against it. And with the debt-sailing crisis effectively resolved, |
| 0:50.6 | attentions in Washington are turning somewhat predictably to 2024, as the long-brewing rivalry between Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former President Donald Trump is setting an unofficial record for the speed with which it's turned just sort of out and out nasty. |
| 1:05.3 | Complicating this a bit is that DeSantis has staked his entire image on being the guy who doesn't back down from fights. |
| 1:11.7 | His super PAC is literally named Never Back Down. And given that, as well as his sort of early |
| 1:17.3 | stumbles out of the gate as he tried to avoid taking on Trump by name, even as Trump |
| 1:22.2 | hammered him time after time after time after time. It means that the spat with Trump for DeSantis is almost |
| 1:29.0 | existential in its stakes. If he doesn't stand and fight, he risks shattering this carefully |
| 1:35.1 | honed image that he's built over the course of several years. But the challenge for him is |
| 1:40.3 | how to fight Trump. You know, what issues to fight over? And how do you fight over those things |
| 1:45.8 | without alienating Trump's diehard supporters, as well as the Trump-approving Republican-based |
| 1:51.4 | voters, which is a much broader group, who are people whose support DeSantis will need if he's |
| 1:56.5 | going to stand an actual shot at winning the Republican nomination. So how do you thread that needle? |
| 2:02.2 | Well, DeSantis is opting to, at least in this moment, avoid confrontations on policy matters, |
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