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And now on with the show. last week ladies and gentlemen we were

involved through the looking glass in alice and wonderland world surrounding the strange case of

stan romanek and we thought after living in an insane world for two hours we had to try to approach sanity again.

And one of the sanest people we know, of course, is Matt Tonys, who's an author, a researcher,

and he's covered twin subjects that we deal with.

One, of course, is Mars exploration, Mars mysteries, and the other being his investigations

to UFOs and the theory about

crypto-terrestrials that UFOs come from maybe the Earth.

But of course, we're talking, Mac, about so many of the things being done about Mars, and

it's nice to see that Mars exploration, space exploration, on the front pages of our newspapers these days,

and the fact that with a few minor glitches, this new Mars exploration, checking the poles and the ice caps at Mars,

maybe doing something productive. What's the intent of this probe?

Well, the intent is to analyze the soil for not life directly like the Viking probes did back in the mid-70s,

but to check the soil for, you know, traces of organic chemistry to see if the soil was once

hospitable to life, which is great.

It's because it's the best we've done since the Viking

probes, but I'm personally dissatisfied. I mean, it's, I'm excited naturally, because, like

you said, it's on the front pages. It's nice to have Mars exploration in the public domain

like that for since. It's been a while, so we've had something exciting

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