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Switched on Pop

Jump-starting the creative process with Allison Ponthier

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2022

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Allison Ponthier knows the hardest part of making anything is getting started. When she was young, she “always wanted to write songs,” fanatically scribbling rhymes in a diary, but gave it up — the prevailing narratives of natural talent, artistic genius, and spontaneous inspiration put the brakes on her songwriting aspirations. She didn’t pick it up again until she turned 19: “It just took me that long to build the confidence.” Now, after a short stint in jazz school, a scholarly approach to YouTube song tutorials, and consistent writing practice, the 26-year-old Ponthier has crafted a songwriting method that reliably turns the mundane into the profound. Her 2021 EP Faking My Own Death shows the hand of a seasoned artist, with lyrics that mine her personal life for unexpected twists and turns. (“It took New York to make me a cowboy,” says the Texas-born, New York–based singer on “Cowboy.”) It helps that she has the backing of songwriting heavyweights such as recent collaborators Lord Huron, Semisonic’s Dan Wilson, and Ethan Gruska (whose productions with Phoebe Bridgers soundtracked the pandemic). To provide a closer look at her process, Ponthier gave us a tour of her songwriting notebook — but not before noting that “no one looks at this, by the way.” The details it contained on the making of her single “Autopilot” is a master class for anyone looking to break through creative barriers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sam Mendes presents Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, an audible original drama.

0:05.6

The young gentleman's name would be...

0:08.3

Oliver, Oliver Twist.

0:10.7

...with Brian Cox as Fagan.

0:12.9

What have you seen?

0:14.1

Street boy.

0:14.9

Nicola Cochlan as Nancy and Daniel Callugia as Bill Sykes.

0:19.3

Oh, look at me like a hound of my eye!

0:21.3

I love you, Bill!

0:22.3

...with original music by Dan Gillespie Cells.

0:25.7

Subscription required, see audible.co.uk for terms.

0:42.5

Welcome to Switched On Pop.

0:43.6

I'm songwriter Charlie Harding.

0:45.2

The other day I got this voice note from a listener.

0:48.0

Haney and Charlie, I'm sending up the bat signal for your help.

0:51.5

I discovered Alison Pontier through her work with Lord Huron,

0:54.3

and I love her newest song, Autopilot.

0:56.4

She's this amazing indie rock singer-songwriter,

0:59.2

and I've quickly become a huge fan of hers.

1:01.2

I'd love to hear a good old-fashioned analysis of Autopilot.

1:04.3

It's such a fun song and definitely activating some earworms in my brain,

1:08.4

especially elements of the chorus and intro.

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