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On with Kara Swisher

July 4th Special: Why Heather Cox Richardson Still Has Hope for American Democracy

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.22.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s historic felony conviction, a SCOTUS ruling in favor of presidential immunity, and a dumpster fire Biden vs. Trump debate: Those are just a few of the things that have happened on the American democracy front since Kara spoke to historian Heather Cox Richardson in January. In a special Independence Day episode, Kara and Heather replay that conversation, including history lessons from her book Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America, and then rejoin at the end. They discuss what Heather thought of the first presidential debate, why she believes changing presidential horses mid-race would be disastrous for Democrats, and how events of the past six months have (or haven't) changed her perspective about American Democracy. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find Kara on Instagram/Threads as @karaswisher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Podcast network. This is on with Kara Swisher and I'm

1:21.5

Kara Swisher. We've been talking a lot about

1:23.7

democracy on this show this year and it's the 4th of July. So we decided to

1:27.6

switch things up and we have Heather Cox Richardson with us today for the

1:30.9

holiday. Hi Heather, thanks for joining us. Always a pleasure. So you're

1:34.8

a professor of history at Boston College or you're probably best known for your sub-stack,

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