July 3, 2022 — Rick Hilberg with Tim Swartz

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🗓️ 3 July 2022

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

Gene and guest cohost Tim Swartz present UFO writer and publisher Rick Hilberg, an individual Gene has known for longer than either cares to admit. They first became acquainted when posting messages in the original Saucer Club News section of Ray Palmer’s Flying Saucers magazine. They became fast friends. Hilberg has been writing, publishing and investigating UFOs and related phenomena since 1962 and was one of the founding members of the original Conference of Scientific Ufologists, which later became the National UFO Conference. It was a key part of what was then labeled “Middle Ufology,” because of its responsible and even-handed approach to research in the field. He was the editor of UFO Magazine (the first American version), Flying Saucer Digest, and several Fortean publications, and has written and published more than 20 books and booklets on these subjects since 1965.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast.
0:02.0	You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:27.8	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:32.0	When I consider the guest that we brought this week, Tim Swartz and I,
0:36.6	Rick Hilberg, I think this must be the geyser hour.
0:40.3	That's right.
0:43.3	You said it.
0:45.3	I sure did. I sure said. I admit that I've been to the geyserhood now for quite a few years, and I'm proud of it. We all have to face up to it.
0:53.3	Let's go back through time. Sure. Okay. We're not going proud of it. We all have to face up to it. Let's go back through time.
0:56.0	Sure. Okay. We're not going to use George's time machine.
1:00.0	We're not going to use the Wave Rider from the now departed TV show, legends or whatever.
1:07.0	But we're going to instead do kind of a memory time machine. And it goes back to, what,
1:14.5	about the early 1960s? And a bunch of us, real young people, we're reading this magazine called
1:22.7	Flying Saucers, published by Ray Palmer, who had this notorious background as both a sci-fi and paranormal
1:30.7	writer editor, which we can get into another time. And then in Saucer Club news, they posted announcements
1:37.6	from people who had local flying saucer clubs. And they got in touch with one another. And I met
1:44.0	people like Alan Greenfield.
1:45.9	And some guy from the Cleveland area, name of Rick Huberg,
1:50.7	Rick, what led you to that magazine and putting an announcement there?
1:56.6	It's a long, we have to get in that time machine and kick it back a couple years back to the fall of
2:01.9	1958. I was in my last year of elementary school, just a little wee babe. I don't know what kind of
2:10.3	class it was. It might have been a civics class. It might have been a science class. Who the
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