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Okay, today's episode is one I've personally been so curious about because we're talking to someone

who did

just go through the bachelor world. She helped create it. A bachelor producer. Julie Laplaca

was a producer on the show for years, meaning she was behind some of the biggest love stories,

heartbreaks, moments we all became obsessed with. And at one point, she kind of became the story

herself. And I feel like there's a whole layer of

the bachelor world that people think they understand, but they really don't know what's actually

happening behind the scenes. I'm here to ask all those questions. And did she or did she not

fall in love with Pilot Pete? What happened there? Today, we're getting into all of it.

And how being surrounded by love stories for a living can actually mess with your own.

So for people watching and listening, we were just talking about where we go in our dreams.

And then the engineer, our sweet wolf, was like, say to that into the microphone, because you were talking about astro- and where we go and you had a very vivid

dream and you saw yourself literally where you ended up in Bali. Yeah. Before you went. Yeah. Yeah. That was

same with me on The Bachelor. I saw, I saw the cameras. I saw myself sitting in an ITM, which I didn't even

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