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Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Julianna Margulies: Getting Unstuck

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Chaotic childhoods can leave us feeling stuck. Stuck in the roles and relationships and chaos that once felt familiar. Actress Julianna Margulies (best known for her roles in ER and The Good Wife) found incredible success, but nothing seemed to free her from living into past, traumatic dynamics. In this conversation, Kate and Julianna discuss the roles we get trapped inside (I’m the cheerful one! I’m the dutiful one! I'll keep it together!) and how love can surprise us through unlikely strangers and new relationships. Kate ends with a blessing for a permission to change. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Kate Boehler and this is Everything Happens.

0:04.0

I'm a historian, author, aggressively fast walker, but lately in a world that promises endless

0:10.9

progress, even now in a pandemic, I've realized I just need to be a person.

0:18.4

It's hard to give up on the feeling that the life you want is just out of reach, if

0:23.7

only you tried.

0:26.0

Make this food, find that relationship, just get the kids graduated or the parents this

0:31.6

kind of care.

0:33.4

Only then will I feel different, better, whole.

0:39.3

But that's not the way this works.

0:42.1

When I was 35, I was diagnosed with stage war cancer, and here's the very fun thing

0:47.1

about that.

0:48.4

The world loves you better when you are shiny, when you are cheerful, when you still

0:53.7

believe that your best life now is right around the corner.

0:57.9

I've written multiple books on the history of the idea that you can always fix your life,

1:03.1

so I'm going to be the one to say it.

1:05.7

There are some things we can change and some things we can't, and it's okay that life

1:12.0

isn't always getting better.

1:14.7

We can have beauty and meaning, community and love, and we will need each other if we're

1:21.2

going to tell the truth.

1:23.4

Life is a chronic condition, and there's no cure for being human.

1:34.2

I have been many people, and so were you, I'm sure.

1:38.3

As a spectacularly unpopular child with a useful imagination, I tried this trick all

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