Julian Shapiro Barnum is the creator and host of Recess Therapy, an online series where he talks with kids about everything from friendship to the meaning of life.

In tonight's Brief But Spectacular, he shares what adults can learn from the clarity and compassion of children.

The idea behind recess therapy was how can I a young adult who needs help figure

out how to navigate the world get advice from kids who are able to kind of see through all the

BS. What do you want to say to all the adults who think that kids are grimy and gross?

I'm not sticking now.

Was that for energy or for, um, sinking audio?

Oh, you use it?

There were a couple moments where I think recess therapy kind of hit the mainstream in a bigger way.

One was the Corn Kid video moment. It was, uh, one of the most viral videos that TikTok has ever seen.

I can't imagine a more beautiful thing.

I feel like I've spent a lot of my life trying to figure out the best way to have a conversation.

There are so many things that kids do that I wish adults were better at doing.

One is turning strangers into friends. I wish I could bottle that up

and make other adults bring that out of each other. I had kind of an unconventional upbringing.

I was raised by three moms and two dads. Everyone's gay. I had two moms who were together.

They wanted to have a baby. They asked their best friend at the time, my dad, whose boyfriend is my other

dad. And my dad was the sperm donor to both my moms. My mom's broke up when I was two

after having me and my brother and sister, raised us all a couple blocks from each other in Brooklyn.

The adults in my life were often more friends. And I feel like from a very young age, I was

having these really mature discussions about life with adults.

And it's something that I've tried to take into my interviews with kids.

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