Julia Gets Wise with Joan Baez
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Lemonada Media
4.7 • 10.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2026
⏱️ 82 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | When I was on Saturday Night Live back in the day, we had some amazing hosts. I mean, we had Lily Tomlin and Robin Williams and Terry Gar and Ringo Starr and lots of others. We also had a couple of non-showbiz hosts. One of them was |
| 0:24.8 | Senator George McGovern. Now, George McGovern's run for president was before my time. I mean, |
| 0:31.1 | I was alive in 1972, of course, but I was a little kid when McGovern lost every state but Massachusetts and Washington, D.C. to Richard Nixon. |
| 0:43.1 | That loss was so catastrophic that even more than a decade later when he hosted S&L, he was still something of a national punchline. |
| 0:53.4 | I mean, he'd kind of been redeemed when Nixon went on to |
| 0:56.8 | be an horrendous president, driven out of office by hubris and corruption and scandal, you know, |
| 1:02.9 | back when stuff like that could actually hurt your political career. But I think he was still |
| 1:10.4 | mostly remembered as this huge loser with a thin, reedy, Midwestern voice. |
| 1:16.2 | So when he showed up at 30 Rock and he was 6'1 and he was tan and lanky and handsome and smart and funny, it was a bit of a surprise. |
| 1:27.4 | I remember almost nothing about the show that week, |
| 1:30.7 | actually. I do remember there was sort of a what-if sketch where Carl Sagan shows us what would |
| 1:36.4 | have happened if McGovern had beaten Nixon. But the thing I remember most is late one night, |
| 1:43.5 | we were hanging out, probably in my then-boyfriend, now husband, Brad's office. |
| 1:49.3 | And Brad loved McGovern more than anybody. |
| 1:52.3 | And anyway, so we were all there together, just shooting the shit. |
| 1:55.7 | And McGovern was sitting on the desk, and he told us this story. |
| 2:00.9 | His condo in Washington, where he lived with his wife, had burned down in a terrible fire. |
| 2:08.3 | His son Stephen was staying with him, and somehow Senator McGovern and his wife and Stephen were all able to get out of the burning building. |
| 2:16.0 | But everything was lost, including his |
| 2:19.6 | official papers and family photos, records of his military service. Nixon had tried to make |
| 2:26.2 | McGovern out to be a peacnick, by the way, but McGovern was a genuine war hero. He flew 35 |
| 2:31.8 | combat missions in World War II and was awarded the distinguished |
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