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Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Julia Gets Wise with Annie Leibovitz

Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Lemonada Media

Comedy

4.710.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Wiser Than Me, Julia sits down with visionary 76-year-old photographer Annie Leibovitz for a conversation about ambition, aging and the strange magic of being truly seen: both on camera, and in life. They dig into Annie’s relentless eye for detail and how motherhood rewired her creative instincts. Plus Julia speaks with her 91-year-old mom, Judy, about family photos and why smiling for the camera is harder than it looks.   Follow Wiser Than Me on Instagram and TikTok @wiserthanme and on Facebook at facebook.com/wiserthanmepodcast. Find us on Substack at wiserthanme.substack.com.   Keep up with Annie Leibovitz @annieleibovitz on Instagram. Pre-order the latest book from Julia’s mom Judy Bowles here: https://finishinglinepress.com/product/they-spoke-of-the-river-by-judith-bowles/    Find out more about other shows on our network at @lemonadamedia on all social platforms.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today by hitting 'Subscribe' on Apple Podcasts or lemonadapremium.com for any other app.   For exclusive discount codes and more information about our sponsors, visit https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/.    For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

As I've mentioned on this here podcast, we lost our home of 31 years and everything in it in the Pacific Palisades fire earlier this year.

0:18.0

And if you listen to the last episode of Wiser Than Me, in that episode, I warned that I might

0:23.4

be talking to you, dearest listener, about that fire and the loss that came with it a lot this

0:30.7

season. And, well, I'm a woman in my word. So here you go.

0:41.2

We had a rough plan of evacuation from that house.

0:45.9

The most important thing to get out was our photos.

0:52.8

And unfortunately, we didn't get a chance to put that plan into effect and all the photos were lost.

0:57.3

And I have to say, we had more than just a few photos.

1:09.2

In fact, we had Lord help us more than 90 big photo albums that were perfectly sorted and identified and organized by me. Every picture ever taken of our kids and also

1:16.7

crazy important stuff like our parents' baby pictures and the only pictures that existed of my

1:23.4

parents' sweating and a photo of my father-in-law playing high school football in a leather

1:28.6

helmet in 1927, and many, many, just thousands more, like tens of thousands more.

1:37.2

We were the repository of the family record, and it is definitely obsessive, but, God, it was so joyful. It was so perfect.

1:48.5

These photos gave me an enormous amount of joy. And there was one in particular that was just so good.

1:55.4

It was this gorgeous photo that could have been a Norman Rockwell painting of our son Charlie at about five in his

2:04.3

first baseball uniform sitting on his dad's knee hugging a huge baseball glove like a doll

2:10.5

baby.

2:14.8

And his dad, my Brad, who was Charlie's first baseball coach, was in the exact same Texas Rangers uniform hugging Tiny Charlie.

2:26.4

You just can't imagine the shit-eating grins on their faces. It was just heaven.

2:31.9

Another was a photo that Brad took of our son Henry sitting on my father's lap on the

2:37.5

Il San Luis in Paris, my father's beloved hometown, with an ice cream cone in his chocolate

2:43.7

covered four-year-old hand and more chocolate dripping down his smiling chin.

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