Hello everyone. This is Moderate Rebels Live. I'm in person. It's pretty rare, but I'm sitting here with the Max Blumenthal.

Yeah, and I'm not actually shorter than Ben. He just, we can't get his chair any lower. So it's kind of like when John Stewart, who's like four foot two, used to interview people and they would always put their chairs much lower.

So, and also it highlights Ben's role as the kind of host. But he's actually much taller than me.

Pretty significantly. In the comments, hello, everybody.

Yeah, everybody's in, I'm looking at the comments now and everyone's all into these podcast wars.

So we're just adding another ingredient to this.

We're not like, I'm not trying to do this.

Like, I'm not trying to be involved in all these podcast wars with, t yt was something that i ignored like for a long

time i it was just like this sonic it was like this this this wallpaper for normie lifestyles that i

had no interest in and suddenly kind of came into my life and now there's some other

clash taking place and we're trying to do reporting. We're trying to do journalism. And same

with Aaron Mate, who's caught up in the middle of this. But, you know, we got targeted for

our journalism and it wasn't just by this pampered, hyper-entitled heiress

who has spent a large portion of her adult life snorting away the public assets of Iran.

It was an entire operation behind her that basically was looking to weaponize someone stupid enough to actually take us to a DC city court.

And that's kind of what we want to talk about, is not just this legal action, but the entire operation that's been trying to take down the gray zone because of our

journalism, I'm assuming everyone who's watching this, you know, you got to at least skim the article

that we published a few days ago. Ben actually came into town because we wanted to start or really

finish up this documentary we've been working

on about what's happening in Nicaragua. And then this decision comes down on Salome Anderson

versus Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton and 10 John Does alleging that we were involved in this

nefarious conspiracy directed by like gamma rays from

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