Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran asking your nephew to set up a sound cloud account for you

or else a scrappy upstart, asking your uncle how to hook up his old reel-to-reel tape machine.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

excuse to put off actually writing.

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