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Off Air with Jane & Fi

Joy, the corkscrew (with Jung Chang)

Off Air with Jane & Fi

The Times

News, Chat, Entertainment, Society & Culture, Relationships, Women, Community, Unknown, Times Radio, Jane Garvey, Entertainment News, Fi Glover, News Commentary, Conversation, The Times

4.7884 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The glass has very much been smashed on emergency Jane and she's settled in for the week. Jamal and Fi chat playing shops, influencer culture and L.A. Law.


Plus, author of 'Wild Swans' Jung Chang discusses her sequel 'Fly, Wild Swans'.


We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.


You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki.


If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: [email protected]


Follow us on Instagram! @janeandfi


Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I think you're probably the most influential person that I follow on the Instagram.

0:04.6

God, you really do need to get some new people to follow then.

0:08.7

Good luck.

0:09.9

I don't even have influence over my own houseplants.

0:26.5

I think if you've dedicated yourself to bake-off and traitors, you're just busy now, aren't you?

0:31.6

That's just, that's just it, because bake-off runs over the hour now, which I'm very grateful for.

0:35.2

And traitors, I'm upset that it's only on two nights a week.

0:38.1

But I don't feel like I've got an awful lot of room for anything else. What about you? Never watched a single episode of Traitors in my life.

0:43.6

And I realise that is, I really, you know, my job is to be sort of, you know, have my finger

0:47.6

on the pulse of popular culture. But I'm just happy to leave that one because I don't watch anything on Shrestrial Television live, full stop.

0:57.7

I don't have a TV.

0:59.4

So I watch things on my laptop.

1:00.8

Also, I'm never home.

1:02.2

Are you worried that the licence people are listening?

1:04.6

Do you know what?

1:05.5

I did actually just buy my licence several months late the other day.

1:08.7

A very rehearsed answer.

1:10.5

No, I just, you have to pay even if you don't watch Shrestrail TV.

1:15.2

They don't let you get away with it just because you're like,

1:17.6

well, I only watch things on streaming and I pay for them.

1:20.9

And I never listen to the other radio stations, the one with the five and the six.

1:27.5

I just basically don't watch a lot of live television.

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