Journalistic Corruption Continues with "Original Sin" Tour, and Charlie Kirk on What MAGA Wants Next

Next Up with Mark Halperin

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4.8 • 846 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin dives into the latest twists in the "Original Sin" Biden book rollout, Jake Tapper's changing PR strategy, how the media keeps failing as it misses more opportunities to win back trust with the audience, the "journalistic corruption" at CNN as Brian Stelter misses the real story in his coverage, and more. Then Meghan McCain, host of "Citizen McCain" on 2WAY, joins to talk about how Jake Tapper writing this Biden cognitive decline book is like O.J. Simpson writing "If I Did It," the McCain family relationship with the Bidens, how to fix the media, and more. Then Turning Point USA's Charlie Kirk joins to talk about how the MAGA grassroots movement works, what MAGA thinks of the "big beautiful bill" coming up for a vote soon, their priorities and what they don't care about, the Bannon wing of the party vs. the GOP establishment, what he'd say to a meeting with Kamala Harris, the future of media, and more.

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0:00.0	Greetings, everybody, welcome back to what is next.
0:11.3	I'm Mark Kaepern, editor-in-chief of two-way, and so happy to have you here.
0:14.2	We're happy and grateful.
0:15.7	We're a new program, and we're off to a pretty quick start because of you, those you who've listened previously or watch
0:22.5	previously, we're now the number four top podcast, new podcast, according to the Associated Press
0:28.8	and Apple, and we're the top new news in the news category. And again, we couldn't be more
0:34.6	grateful to you as we start out here. So thank you for being part of it. And again, you can watch us on YouTube and you can listen to us wherever you get, your podcast, as they say. Today, also grateful to have Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA here to join us to talk about everything MAGA and what's going on in the country. Great guy appear on his program regularly,
0:55.9	and he's returning the favor today. And Megan McCain will be here. And Megan and I, our colleagues
1:00.8	are two-way. Megan has a great interest in the topic we're going to spend some of our time talking
1:05.2	about today, which is this issue of Joe Biden's cognitive decline and how that story was allowed
1:10.0	to play out the way it did. Megan
1:12.3	has known the Biden family for years, and she knows Jake Tapper, the reporter who's one of the two
1:17.7	who wrote the new book that's being discussed elsewhere in a year. She knows them both well,
1:22.5	and she's got strong feelings about it. So Megan will be here to talk about that. We're going to
1:27.3	talk about Joe Biden and this issue of cognitive decline. And I know a lot of people are going to say be here to talk about that. We're going to talk about Joe Biden and this
1:28.6	issue of cognitive decline. And I know a lot of people are going to say, why not talk about Donald
1:31.6	Trump and all the controversies involving Donald Trump? Those are important and interesting, too.
1:36.5	And they're discussed elsewhere. And I'll continue to hold the Trump administration accountable and to
1:41.1	cover that. But the reason why I'm continuing to talk about this story about Joe Biden
1:45.8	is because there's no way to hold Donald Trump accountable if two institutions in this country
1:50.8	aren't capable of doing it because they don't have the credibility. That's the media, my colleagues
1:56.3	in the media, and that's the Democratic Party. Every one of you should want those two institutions to have
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