Joshua Yaffa on What’s Next for Ukraine
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🗓️ 3 October 2022
⏱️ 16 minutes
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The contributor Joshua Yaffa, who was based in Moscow for years and has been reporting from Ukraine since the start of the war, speaks to David Remnick from Kyiv. There, Yaffa says, the latest news from Russia—including threats of nuclear attack and reports of political upheaval—has been treated with near-indifference. “Ukraine has been in the fight for its survival since the end of February, fully aware that Russia is ready to throw any and all resources at the attempted subjugation of the Ukrainian state,” he says. “And after things like the massacre in Bucha and other areas outside of Kyiv, earlier this spring, there’s not much that can surprise or shock or scare the Ukrainian public about what Russia is ready to do.”
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| 1:11.9 | This is the Politics and More podcast. I'm David Remnick. |
| 1:18.9 | Our contributor Joshua Yoffa is on the ground reporting in Ukraine where the news has been |
| 1:24.6 | absolutely stunning. A counterattack in Ukraine that has Russian forces in |
| 1:30.0 | retreat. Vladimir Putin reacting by calling up recruits and threatening nuclear war. And distinct signs |
| 1:37.6 | of political rebellion and despair in Russia itself, as thousands of people have fled the country |
| 1:43.4 | and many more are taking to the street |
| 1:46.2 | in protest. Joshua Yoffa was based for years in Moscow and since the war began, he's reported |
| 1:52.3 | for us consistently from Ukraine. I reached him there last week. Hey Josh, how are you? Nice to talk to you. |
| 2:00.0 | I'm reaching you in Kiev. |
| 2:01.1 | That's right. Yeah, I arrived a few days ago. |
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