Welcome back to Reasonable Faith with Dr. William Lane Craig.

We can continue this interview with Josh Swamadas

that he conducted with the guys at capturing Christianity.

Scientists tend to be very evidence driven and sometimes that slips into a type of positivism

or if they don't have evidence for it, they don't believe it happens.

Right.

And, you know, I think that's one area where I think careful and respectful engagement

from philosophers and science could actually help. Because I think one one thing there's actually a lesson in the history of science in this too.

It's a very recent one too looking at how ancient DNA has really reshaped our understanding of human history.

So ancient DNA is you can take all these fossils and these remains that we're digging up out of the

ground and not like Jurassic Park.

You can't go back 65 million years ago, but you can go back about 400,000 years and get DNA out of hominid fossils going back like I said about 400,000 years you get that DNA you sequence it you can start understanding things about human history

you can see before and over again there's a really beautiful article that said

that ancient DNA is sparring with Occam's razor. So if you do if you take the simplest explanation of the DNA that we have and people

walking a lot around today, you get one story, but then it's a simple story. But if you add in all this information from ancient DNA, you find out the story is much more complex, that there's actually mixing in a lot more places than you expect.

And so that's kind of what the current pattern is.

So when you look at the DNA there, you might say isolation, but we don't know actually what the future holds. pattern is an

what the future holds because ancient DNA could tell something different and we

know for a fact that human history is far more complex than our simplest

models.

Now that is an argument that I would say is relatively provocative

that I'm making in the book.

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