My name is Adam. My name is Eve.

I was the first man to live and breathe.

God made the ocean. He made it blue.

it blue.

Bill, you've had an opportunity to meet and work with Josh Swamadas who is really getting a lot of people

talking these days, especially when it comes to the historical Adam and Eve and the theology

behind it.

I met him first at the Dabar conference at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School,

which is a conference of the so-called Creation Project investigating these origins questions.

And he was there, he's an information biologist from Washington University in St. Louis.

And he made quite an impression on me because during one of the

sessions the speaker was talking about Darwinism and Swamidas stood up from the floor and he's a big fellow and he says to this fellow

Why do you keep talking about Darwinism Darwinism has been dead for over a hundred years and the fellow says well all right then neo-Darwinism and

Swamidas wouldn't let go he said neo-Darwinism has been dead since the late 1960s. Why do you keep attacking these obsolete

views rather than the views that are current in evolutionary biology?

And really challenging the speaker on his knowledge of what was going on in current

evolutionary theory.

So Josh is an expert in this area.

He's very confrontational, not afraid to be controversial.

Let's play some excerpts of his interview on the YouTube channel,

Capturing Christianity. By the way, we want to give a shout out to Cameron Bertusi who hosts

capturing Christianity and does a phenomenal job hosting and producing it and Michael

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