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Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Josh Rouse

Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Rhett Miller

Arts, Performing Arts, Music

5.0596 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Rhett welcomes singer-songwriter Josh Rouse for a wide-ranging conversation about carving out a life in music. Josh reflects on coming of age in a different era of the music business—when CDs still mattered and labels took chances—and how the ground beneath that world has shifted. The two dive into fatherhood, the struggle to stay creatively motivated, and what it means to be a working musician in a culture obsessed with virality.  Follow Josh @ joshrouse.com Follow Rhett @rhettmiller Wheels Off is hosted and produced by Rhett Miller. Executive producer Kirsten Cluthe. Editing by Justin Thomas. Music by Old 97’s. Episode artwork by Mark Dowd. Show logo by Tim Skirven.  Revisit previous episodes of Wheels Off with guests Rosanne Cash, Rob Thomas, Jeff Tweedy, The Milk Carton Kids, and more. If you like what you hear, please leave us a rating or review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

0:04.8

I'm Rhett Miller.

0:19.5

Josh Rouse is a songwriter.

0:23.2

He and I have a lot of similarities.

0:27.2

Sometimes it seems like the universe features these archetypes of people.

0:32.9

And if that's true, I think Josh and I are slotted into an archetype together.

0:40.7

We're close in age.

0:42.8

We've dedicated our lives to this craft.

0:45.9

We came up at the end of one sort of business model, artistic world, and we have found

0:52.4

ourselves now middle-aged, middle-class songwriters, working in a new

1:00.6

and different world. He and I have toured together. That actually happened after the recording

1:08.0

of this interview. So this interview is weirdly the first time we ever really connected.

1:16.1

Our orbits must have been elliptical and off-setting or something.

1:22.9

We never encountered each other before meeting up for this interview and then the subsequent

1:28.7

shows that we've done together, which really submitted a friendship, and I think the world

1:34.2

of him.

1:34.5

So I'm really grateful that Wheels Off gave me the opportunity to pick his brain before he

1:40.1

and I were ever, even in a backstage together sharing a toured itinerary.

1:47.3

He's a really cool, you know what, you're going to find all this stuff out.

1:52.5

He's great.

1:53.4

He's very funny, very down-to-earth, sweet guy.

1:58.3

So please enjoy this Wheels Off interview with Josh Rouse.

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