From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, which you can also hear at KCRW.com.

You know my guest, Josh Radner, is a man who has had the longest pursuit of our mate

in television history on how I met your mother.

But as a romantic anthropologist, he's also gone off on his own.

In his directorial writing debut, happy thank you more, please, which played Sundance last year

when the audience wore.

They were a terrific film.

He's here with me.

Josh, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. One of the things in how I met your mother, I think one of the best episodes

of TV I've ever seen, when you and Lindsay Sloan get back together, you basically have dated so many

people in New York that you're back to somebody you dated years before. And it was not only a really well-written episode, but a great performance. Oh, thanks.

I mean, I just thought that sort of thing of you basically being both hopeful and ruleful at the same time.

Yeah.

It was a really tough thing to pull off.

Oh, thanks. Yeah. I mean, it's an amazing thing to be, we're in season seven now, so to be staying with a character for that long, you kind of in the pilot you have the DNA for a character.

And then as a series goes, they kind of riff on it and deepen it, shade it,

and different things start emerging.

So I think something that's really interesting happening with that character is the edges are getting frayed a little bit.

I mean, he's still this romantic, but he's also getting really dark and really sad.

It's almost like this thing now where he's, it's almost kind of existential.

We're pursuing this thing whether he gets it or not.

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