Josh Hader to the IL & Talking Tigers w/Cody Stavenhagen
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
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4.7 • 873 Ratings
🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Eno and DVR discuss the Astros' bullpen as Josh Hader is slowed by a shoulder injury, the return of Cristian Javier to the rotation, plus on the first installment of 'The Checklist', they discuss the seasons of Ben Rice, Bo Bichette and Geraldo Perdomo.
Cody Stavenhagen joins the program to discuss the Tigers, whose underwhelming additions at the Trade Deadline may come into question without a deep run in October.
Rundown
1:05 Josh Hader: Sent for Imaging Due to Shoulder Soreness
4:54 Cristian Javier: Shows New Sinker in Return to Rotation
10:08 Shane McClanahan: Undergoes Season-Ending Surgery
13:57 Ben Rice: Increasing Time Behind the Plate
23:31 Bo Bichette: Buying the 2025 Rebound?
27:08 Geraldo Perdomo: A Top-25 Hitter in 2025
30:42 Cody Stavenhagen Joins the Show to Talk Tigers!
35:16 Understanding Riley Greene's Mid-Summer Slump
40:42 A Deeper Lineup for This Year's Tigers?
45:21 An Underwhelming Trade Deadline
55:45 The Lack of Consistency with the Bats Despite a Higher Floor
1:02:06 A Very Strong System Capable of Bringing Long-Term Success
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Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris
Guest: Cody Stavenhagen
Producer: Brian Smith
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Rates and barrels. |
| 0:12.3 | It's Tuesday, August 12. |
| 0:13.6 | Derek Van Riper, Enoceris here with you on this episode. |
| 0:17.5 | We'll be joined by Cody Stavenhagen, the athletics Tigers beat rider. We're going to talk a lot |
| 0:22.3 | about this Tigers team. What has changed since last year? Could things be different for them |
| 0:26.6 | this October? And why were they so quiet at the trade deadline? We've got some baseball news |
| 0:31.9 | you should know to get to. Josh Hater going for imaging. Right as the Astros just got healthier |
| 0:36.8 | in the rotation with the return of Christian Javier, We got an update on Shane McClanahan, and we're going to dig into three hitters that we have not talked a lot about on the show this year, even though they're having very good and very interesting seasons along the way. If you have not joined our Discord yet, you can do that with the link in the show description. Be sure to hit the like button this video if you're watching on YouTube or |
| 0:57.0 | leave us a nice rating and review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. |
| 1:01.2 | Eena, let's start with the baseball news. You should know Josh Hater did not enter the game on |
| 1:05.7 | Monday for a save opportunity against the Red Sox because of shoulder soreness. |
| 1:10.2 | He has been sent for |
| 1:10.9 | imaging and the result of those tests is not known at the time of this recording. So we're in the |
| 1:17.1 | day-to-day for now bucket as it goes with Hater. Interestingly though, he last pitched Friday |
| 1:23.0 | and threw 36 pitches and in his absence on Monday, Bennett Sousa got the save, his fourth of the season. |
| 1:30.6 | But the reason was, Brian Abraeu had pitched two of the last three games, and one of those was one and two-thirds against the Yankees on Sunday. |
| 1:39.6 | So it sounds like, based on comments that Joe Espada made, if Josh Hayter is unavailable for any |
| 1:45.8 | prolonged stretch, Brian Abraeu is pretty clearly the next in line to close out games for |
| 1:51.5 | the Astros. |
| 1:52.5 | Yeah, and I would assume that maybe Brian King is the setup man in front of him. |
| 1:59.3 | I really like Brian Abrae, and I think that he can handle this, and I think he can be a closer. |
| 2:04.9 | So you don't lose as much in the first seat, but I think everybody moving up a seat, you do start to lose something. |
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