Joseph Oleshangay: Honoring nomadic, pastoral, and communal land relations
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 18 February 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
How is the Maasai community continually being displaced and disenfranchised in the name of “wildlife conservation”? What are some of the common propaganda used to justify their mass evictions?
And how do the Maasai’s communal land relations, rooted in nomadism and pastoralism, ultimately challenge the laws of their nation-state — revealing the subjective ethics and worldviews that define legality?
In this episode, we are honored to be joined by Joseph Oleshangay, a Maasai human rights lawyer who has litigated high-profile lawsuits against their government — notably, regarding forced evictions of the Maasai community in Ngorongoro District for tourism and trophy hunting.
What can we learn from the Maasai’s ancestral lifeways that blur the lines between life and “wild” life — showing their food, medicine, culture, spirituality, stories, and music as inextricably woven into the plains and highlands where they call home?
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| 0:54.5 | One is expansion. |
| 0:57.0 | That's how colonialism reached Africa. |
| 0:59.5 | The semi-appellate conservation. |
| 1:00.8 | It always keeps growing. |
| 1:02.5 | So it started with Serengeti. |
| 1:04.8 | Now we are almost losing the entire Mass Island in this kind of conservation. |
| 1:10.5 | Second is commercial. So for this kind of conservation. Second is commercial. |
| 1:12.6 | So for this conservation to work, which was created by the British, |
| 1:18.6 | it has to be monetized. |
| 1:21.6 | It cannot work without money. |
| 1:23.6 | But third is military. |
| 1:26.6 | So how expands she and happens is through violence. |
| 1:31.9 | It's always very, very violent. |
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