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I've been living in the midst of what I would describe as the war on bacteria.

And this idea that bacteria are scary, we need to avoid bacteria,

to try to destroy them by any means necessary.

But I think that, you know, sort of the error in this simplistic thinking

is the fact that our greatest protection from the very

relatively small range of bacteria that can be problems for us is sort of a thriving,

biodiverse population of bacteria on our bodies, on all the surfaces, in our intestines, as well as in our food.

You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane.

Today we're honored to welcome Sandoor Alex Katz, a fermentation revivalist

and the author of Wild Fermentation, The Art of Fermentation, The Revolution Will Not Be Microwed,

Fermentation as Metaphor, and his latest fermentation journeys. Sandor's books, along with the hundreds of fermentation workshops he's led around the world,

have helped to catalyze a broad revival of the fermentation arts.

I would love to begin just by welcoming you to share a little bit about your background

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