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slash UK slash AI for people. Welcome to Scientific American Science Talk posted on July 17th,

2019. I'm Steve Merski. On this episode, when I interviewed Doctors

of Yupp's Generation for this book and I was just trying to understand more what it was like,

they would say things to me like, well, you know, Seema, you know what it's like when you're

on a ward and everyone's dying and you don't know why and you haven't got a treatment.

That's Seema Yasmin.

She's the director of research and education at Stanford University's Stanford Health

Communication Initiative.

She's a physician and researcher.

She practiced at a British hospital before becoming a disease detective with the USCDC's

Epidemic Intelligence Service,

and she's also an award-winning journalist and the author of the book, The Impatient Dr. Lange,

one man's fight to end the global HIV epidemic.

Five years ago today, Dr. Lange, Joseph Lange, known to his friends as Yupp, was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 on his way to a major HIV-AIDS conference,

when pro-Russian rebels blew the plane out of the sky, murdering him and everyone else on board.

Yasmin studied and worked with Lang.

She recently visited our offices in New York City, where we talked about the book and other

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