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How Do You Cope?

Jordan Stephens: ‘I had an appetite for self destruction’ | 2

How Do You Cope?

Wondery

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

5695 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

How do you recover from a breakup you feel is your fault?


John sits down with musician and writer Jordan Stephens, best known as one half of Rizzle Kicks, to talk about how his self-destructive behaviour led to infidelity and heartbreak.


Jordan opens up to John about how he set his life back on the right path, by admitting his faults, accepting his ADHD diagnosis, and throwing himself into group therapy.


On Thursday in our bonus episode The Gratitude List, Jordan shares the 5 things that he is currently grateful for.


You can send in your thoughts and reflections to [email protected], or follow the show on Instagram and TikTok @howdoyoucopepod.


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0:00.0

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0:48.3

Hello and welcome to the second episode of How Do You Cope with me, John Robbins.

0:57.3

This is the podcast where I sit down with a range of guests to talk about the obstacles they have faced

1:02.0

and to ask the simple question, how do you cope?

1:06.8

My guest today is the musician, writer and presenter Jordan Stevens.

1:11.7

Jordan is best known as one half of pop duo Rizzle Kicks, who shot into the spotlight as teenagers in the early 2010s.

1:19.6

After years of making music together, growing up in Brighton, their old school and vibrant energy saw them rise to the top of the charts relatively instantaneously.

1:27.5

Rizzle kicks reformed recently after a 10-year hiatus and they've just released a new album.

1:32.2

Jordan's also pursued his own musical projects, acted and presented on TV and audio,

1:37.2

and recently released his autobiography, Avoidance, Drugs, Heartbreak and Dogs.

1:42.6

And you might be able to read between the lines of the title,

1:45.1

ADHD has formed the backdrop of his life. In this chat, we talk about how Jordan self-medicated

1:51.3

his ADHD for many years using drugs and alcohol, before the breakdown of his relationship

1:56.4

forced him to confront his demons and begin a journey of self-discovery, which challenged his perceptions of love, masculinity, and how he viewed himself.

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