I've never seen anyone split their focus between a ton of different things and do really, really, really well in one of them.

And I love conversations, and podcasting is the best place to have long-form conversations bar none.

What if you found yourself in the middle years of life, taking on responsibility building a family, a reputation, a company, a living, and then in the blink of an eye?

Had to start entirely over, not by choice, but by circumstance.

That was the experience of this week's guest, Jordan Harbinger.

So one of the pioneering voices in podcasting, he'd been in the space for nearly 15 years, building a big audience and a business around it.

But a series of events he never saw coming landed him on the outside looking and wondering, what do I do from here?

He could have left the world of media and podcasting and conversation behind and done any number of things.

Jordan is a former lawyer with a mind for systems and tech, but he loved the community of podcasting. It's all he wanted to do.

So instead, Jordan committed to rebuilding from the ground up. His own show, his own career, his own company and team entirely on his terms, and under his control from the ground up.

Fast-forward about five years, Jordan has not only made a comeback. He has built one of the most popular and successful properties in the explosive growth world of podcasting, the Jordan Harbinger show.

Many times larger than he dreamed of, or honestly even imagined was possible.

Jordan and I have known each other for many, many years. We've shared ideas and visions, hopes, dreams, and experiences.

As we both navigated the world of audio and inspiration and life, but I wanted to really understand what this recent season of work and life has been like for him.

What he's learned, how he accomplished such a breathtaking comeback, what he said no to along the way and why.

How passion and relationships have played into this Phoenix-like experience and how he's changed, as a human being, as a person, as a father and a husband along the way.

And that is where we go in this conversation. So excited to share it with you. I'm Jonathan Fields and this is Good Life Project.

It's good to be hanging out with you. We've known each other for a long time now. We've spent some time on the mic together on both sides.

So I was thinking about there's so many different directions that you and I can go in conversation and we do in private conversation.

Some really recent stuff I want to touch on with you and just I'd love to get your take on some things that are going on in the world these days.

I also want to take a step back in time. We have other conversations that are earlier on the podcast. We'll drop those in the show notes of course, people who want the detailed backstory.

But I was reflecting on one thing recently, which is I was actually listening to one of the free downloadable audiobooks on Audible and it was about phone freakers.

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