Hello and welcome to Happy Place. I'm Fern Cotton and this is the show that helps us find ways back to our authentic selves.

Today I'm chatting to Johnny Wilkinson.

There is a voice that says, I just don't need anything future, I don't need to understand anything past.

And knowing that there is only now, you fall in line with now.

Because now isn't leading to a future moment, there's no such thing.

Nor is it come from a past moment.

Suddenly when you say, I have no need for that now, in terms of, I understand this absolute sort of okness, future and past go.

But that doesn't mean that your ambitions go, doesn't mean that your memories go.

It just means that you're just a willing to completely dive into the unknown.

Johnny's rugby career crossed three decades and four world cups.

His sporting achievements are unmatched.

For most of his life, he was absolutely driven by a quest for perfection and obsession with becoming the best player in the world.

Now though, he's learning to be content with who he is in the present.

I loved having Johnny round to the house the other week.

Here's some really powerful thoughts about how to live in the now, to be truly present in the present, as well as how to let go of the elements we can't control.

We also talked about the idea that we feel we have to earn joy through struggle, which oh my god, I'll put my hands up to and admit it's something I'm still desperately grappling with.

I've really got to get over that one.

And why we might need to redefine what we mean by ambition.

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