Jonathan Van Ness on Shame, Shopping, Bodies, and Hope
10% Happier with Dan Harris
10% Media, LLC
4.6 • 12.9K Ratings
🗓️ 9 May 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
How do you find hope in a lifetime that has experienced more trauma than most?
Guest Jonathan Van Ness says that the key is to stay curious and focus on happiness and joy, even if it's just in a tiny corner.
Jonathan Van Ness is a hairstylist by trade and best known as one of the hosts of the Netflix series Queer Eye. He is also the author of Love That Story and the New York Times bestselling memoir Over the Top, and the host of the podcast Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness.
In this episode we talk about:
- The universality of processing grief
- What a "window of tolerance" means
- Getting curious about shame
- Body dysmorphia
- JVN's complex and contradictory feelings about shopping
- What "parts therapy" or Internal Family Systems therapy is
- Setting boundaries
- Connecting and cultivating joy
Content Warning: Explicit language and mentions of sexual abuse, substance amuse, body dysmorphia, and references to sex.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the 10% happier podcast. |
| 0:06.6 | I'm Dan Harris. |
| 0:09.2 | Okay, kids. |
| 0:12.2 | We've got a wild one for you today. |
| 0:14.5 | Buckle up. |
| 0:15.5 | This episode is hilarious, candid, profane, meaningful, pretty much everything I like in |
| 0:21.1 | life. |
| 0:22.1 | Jonathan Van Ness is perhaps best known as one of the stars of Queer Eye on Netflix, which |
| 0:26.8 | is a great show. |
| 0:27.8 | This is great in it. |
| 0:28.8 | Jonathan or JVN is a hairstyles by trade. |
| 0:32.4 | It also a comedian, podcaster, and writer. |
| 0:34.7 | JVN is just out with a second book called Love That Story, a follow up to the best seller |
| 0:40.2 | called Over the Top in which JVN went to public on some extremely private issues, including |
| 0:46.6 | being HIV plus, surviving sexual abuse, and recovering from drug addiction. |
| 0:51.7 | In this very wide-ranging conversation, we talk about shame, body dysmorphism, trauma, |
| 0:56.6 | and the kind of things that we do. |
| 0:57.6 | Jonathan's complex and contradictory feelings about shopping. |
| 1:00.0 | We spend quite a bit of time on the subject of hope. |
| 1:03.2 | Hope is kind of a tricky topic for me because it's often discussed in rather gauzy and |
| 1:07.4 | insubstantial terms, but JVN talks about it in a really raw and fascinating and practical |
| 1:12.7 | way. |
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