The Science of Hope | Jacqueline Mattis

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Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

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🗓️ 11 May 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

How does hope work?

In this episode from the archives, Rutgers University clinical psychologist Dr. Jacqueline Mattis discusses hope from a scientific perspective and how we can cultivate it.

Dr. Mattis, who is also a Dean of faculty at Rutgers, did not start her career wanting to study hope. She started out studying spirituality and religiosity, specifically concentrating her field work and interviews in African-American and Afri-Caribbean urban communities. She wanted to know why people living under high stress conditions so often choose to be good and compassionate. And that research ultimately led her to hope.

In this episode we talk about:

How her family history influenced her relationship to optimism and faith
The difference between spirituality and religiosity
The benefits of hope and skills to cultivate it
The ways hope can go wrong
And the benefits of denial

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0:00.0	This is the 10% happier podcast.
0:05.9	I'm Dan Harris.
0:07.9	Hey, hey, today we're talking to a renowned psychologist who has come up with five strategies
0:16.2	for cultivating hope.
0:18.5	It's our second episode on Hope this week.
0:20.2	And just to be clear, we're talking about hope not as a gauzy cliche or a state of complacent
0:25.2	optimism, but instead as a trainable and extremely useful mental skill.
0:31.6	If you missed it, go check out Monday's episode with Jonathan Van Ness from the Netflix
0:36.1	show Queer Eye.
0:37.8	He's an amazing character.
0:38.9	The interview is profane and hilarious and also very moving, highly recommended.
0:44.0	I should say these two episodes mark the second week of our month long mental health reboot
0:49.0	series.
0:50.0	As you may know, May is mental health awareness month.
0:51.9	And so every week this month, we're bringing you a pair of episodes on a specific theme
0:56.5	related to mental health and well-being last week was all about sleep this week.
1:01.6	Hope.
1:02.6	Today's guest says, and I'm quoting here, that hope is rooted in data, not fantasy.
1:08.7	Her name is Jacqueline Madness, and she's a clinical psychologist from Rutgers University
1:13.1	where she's also a dean of faculty.
1:15.3	As you're going to hear, she did not start her career planning to study the subject of hope.
1:20.4	She started out studying spirituality and religiosity, specifically doing a lot of fieldwork
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