Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to a special guest episode of that Trippy show.

This week we welcome Jonathan Hite, author, professor of social psychology to NYU Stern.

Jonathan also has been writing for the Atlantic on the effects of social media and the internet on everything from teenagers to our democracy.

His recent piece, why the last 10 years of American life have been uniquely stupid, caught a lot of attention, including

mine.

And I knew we had to discuss it.

It really sums up a lot of his work since a credible book that I highly recommend people read today because of what it lays out.

The Codling of the American mind.

Jonathan, welcome.

Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe.

Thank you, Alex for having me on.

You know, along with recommending people read the calling of the American mind,

it seems so very relevant today but but you center it around the three great untruths that are hurting our development and track the rise of

deliverism on college campuses but but it's impacting far more than that.

I just wanted to start there and give people a foundation for how you think about this.

Sure, actually it's funny, most of my conversations these days, people focus on my second book, which is the righteous mind, why good people are divided by politics and religion, which is about my basic research in moral and political psychology.

But my last book was, as you said, the coddling of the American mind, and that actually is maybe a better place to start this story today.

Because what happened to me is that I'm a college professor,

I spent most of my career at the University of Virginia

and then I moved to NYU Stern in 2011.

And I love being a professor.

It's great fun to be a professor.

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