From the New York Times, this is the interview.

I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

Hamas' attack in Israel on October 7th,

and Israel's nearly two-year war in Gaza

have convulsed not only the region, but America itself.

Here in the U.S., a rise in anti-Semitism and questions around how criticism of Israel relates to anti-Semitism have become central to debates around free speech, immigration, national security, and fundamentally what it means to feel safe and welcome in this country.

Navigating all those debates is Jonathan Greenblatt.

He's the head of the Anti-Defamation League, or ADL.

Founded more than 100 years ago, the ADL's stated mission is to, quote,

stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure

justice and fair treatment to all. Under Greenblatt's decade-long tenure, the ADL has tracked a

precipitous rise in anti-Semitic incidents across the country. At the same time, pro-Palestinian

advocates and others, within and outside the Jewish community say,

the organization has entered the political fray in ways that put it in tension with its founding

civil rights mission. I also wanted to ask Greenblatt about the war and how critics of the

Israeli government, including some Jews, talk about it. Here's my conversation with the ADL's Jonathan Greenblad.

Thank you so much for joining the interview. I'm so glad you're here today.

Thank you so much for having me, Lou.

I want to start with a big question that I know you think about a lot, which is what is the situation in your estimation for Jews in America right now?

I think this is a time of great concern for Jews all over the United States.

You know, at ADL, we track anti-Semitism.

We measure attitudes, and we also track incidents. And we've never really seen a time

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