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Depresh Mode with John Moe

Jonathan Edward Durham Was In Horrible Mental Shape But Didn’t Realize It

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Health & Fitness, John Moe, Interview, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Mental Health

4.9854 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The novelist and hugely popular online writer shares insight on his road to feeling better.

Transcript

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0:00.0

When I was in fifth grade, someone came around to my class to demonstrate different musical

0:04.9

instruments to see if any of us wanted to learn to play any. The oboe was the prettiest

0:11.5

sounding instrument, but I was also informed that it was the hardest to play. So that was out.

0:17.3

French horn also sounded great, so I chose that. And try as I might. Oh, I was not good at it. I was not good at the French horn. Could never make it beautiful. Quit, ultimately. Eventually, later, I started to write, which I took too much better. I had a knack for it, but more importantly, I loved it. I discovered

0:40.5

that flow state very early where it's just happening. It's pouring out of your fingers. You can't

0:46.6

type fast enough to keep up. It's wonderful. I've written a lot over the years. Feel free to buy my

0:52.7

books. And I don't want to get too spiritual

0:55.3

here, but it puts me in touch with a higher state of being, much like the oboe and French horn

1:03.2

couldn't quite. It also makes me understand myself better to know the tools and obstacles

1:09.4

I'm dealing with. I became a writing instructor,

1:13.1

also not long ago, because I want to get other people in touch with all of this.

1:18.7

Today, here on the show, we're going to talk about mental health and writing and how they

1:24.2

coexist, how one aids and hampers the other, and how you might find it really useful.

1:31.7

Book deal or not, whether you ever show it to anyone else or not.

1:37.0

It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

1:40.4

Imagine this music played on the oboe or the French horn if you can't handle the oboe.

1:50.0

Jonathan Edward Durham is a writer, a novelist.

1:57.0

His book, Winterset Hollow, was self-published in 2021 and was really successful,

2:02.9

which is a hard thing to pull off. It's set for a new edition to come out this fall.

2:08.8

Winterset Hollow is about three friends who visit the home of a late beloved author,

2:13.5

and then there are surprises and peril. Jonathan also writes online, which is a newer pursuit for him and one that is going great.

2:22.3

He has a newsletter he updates regularly where he talks about his life, his mental health, his struggles with depression and anxiety and ADHD.

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