And the Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to have with me today

Jonah Goldberg, Senior Editor at Nash Review, author of two best-selling books, at least

two, very much worth reading, liberal fascism and the tyranny of cliches, which I recommend

to everyone.

And I want to say that I recommend particularly

all your stuff is excellent of course but your newsletter which since I've had to write it or had

to but I've written a newsletter on my own the last year or two yours is so superior and really the best of the

genre I think you're you're the newsletterist of the of our time and people can I guess

subscribe to it but they can also read it on national reviews

yeah so it's called the Goldberg file and you know I was actually arguably one of the

very first political bloggers micky cows got his idea forouse files from the Goldberg file and then Andrew Sullivan got his idea for his blog for Mickey Couse.

And when did you begin that?

98?

Yeah, you were really early.

And in internet years, I'm Mathusala, right?

And so it originally started out as an Ur blog before the word blog actually came up.

And then, yeah, I I just I want to warn viewers because you have a

very high-minded serious viewership that's up that's us and they will think you

know after you know watching you talk to Harvey Mansfield and all these, you know,

eminence greases and then we recommend my newsletter and they find that I'm writing a lot about

my dog and about women's prison movies and they might

be a little that get a little whiplash.

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