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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Jonah and Kevin's Excellent Adventure

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2020

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Kevin Williamson is a man of mystery: he’s an “Eisenhower libertarian,” he’s been accused of being a D.C. insider (he lives in Texas), and (most famously) he’s a former staff writer for The Atlantic even though they only gave him one byline before firing him. Life in Kevin’s Fortress of Solitude has stayed mostly the same - even in the midst of a pandemic. Lucky for us, that means he had time to talk to Jonah about his unique political perspective, the role of government in a crisis, and how his “libertoid” opinions help him solve those mysteries of his. Show Notes: -Kevin’s latest book, The Smallest Minority -Kevin’s upcoming essay collection, Big White Ghetto -The (massively underrated) Tyranny of Cliches -Suicide of the West (now out in paperback!) -Adhocracy, a favorite term of Jonah and Kevin’s -Kevin’s The End is Near -Kevin’s claim to being an “Eisenhower libertarian” -Douglass North’s impenetrably brilliant Violence and Social Orders -Obama’s second inaugural: “preserving our individual freedoms ultimately requires collective action.” -The unfortunately-named philosophical paradox, “Buridan’s Ass” -Cleta Mitchell, releasing works for consumption by the populist masses -Kevin’s The Case Against Trump -$25 credit from SaneBox

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0:00.0

Greetings dear listeners this is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnant Podcast

0:29.4

in week whatever of it is of the plague years and I'm at the dispatch offices by

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myself downtown Washington is super creepy right now though probably not as

0:44.5

creepy as downtown New York today's episode is brought to you by St. Box more

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about them in a little bit and of course we are a production of the dispatch

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and dispatch media go to the dispatch.com for all sorts of fantastic things and

1:00.9

to get a you know the journalistic equivalent of Gonga Gonga so today we have a

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very special guest who we've been holding off for a very long time because we

1:15.7

wanted to have in the studio when he on his he walks the earth like cane and

1:21.7

every now and then he comes through Washington and people hide their

1:26.5

daughters and they're whiskey and but we figured since we may be quarantined for

1:31.8

the rest of our lives we should stop putting it off and so we have my friend

1:35.3

and former colleague Kevin Williams and Kevin Welco aboard. Hey you know I have to

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ask you the question always just to ask people when they would have me on Fox

1:43.9

News which is who canceled. Well as point of fact you again you were like I so

1:54.6

what happened was Jim Pethacookas was supposed to come on and talk about the

1:57.4

economic gloom and nightmare and all the rest and then he had to honor a

2:01.6

commitment to go on of all things MSNBC and so I quickly went to my list of

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people that we've been waiting to get on and you were the top of the list and so

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but yes thank you for you know introducing a welcome note of awkwardness to

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this guy. I've always kind of thought of myself as a poor man's Pethacookas anyway.

2:21.7

How well do you know Jim? Reason me well I think we've been on some panels and

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