Elaine was always put off dogs by her mother who would always say you can't get a dog because then they die and you get upset.

You know that's not the best attitude, right?

What have had all the years before they die?

This week on Walking the Dog, Ray and I got to chapter, frankly, one of the most brilliant men on the

planet, journalist, author and

John Lonson, John lives in New York so this week it's more of a zoom with the dogs

while they lays about snoring.

John's got a beautiful spaniel poodle cross called Josie and we also chatted about the

dog he sadly lost not long ago a Tibetan terrier called floppy it's hard to

know where to even start when you're trying to sum up this man's career highlights because whatever he writes just

seems to get the world talking. There's his books so you've been publicly shamed about online

humiliation and the psychopath test which got us all wondering if we were in fact

secret psychopaths or the men who stare at goats which was adapted into a

you and McGregor film John was every bit as funny and as fascinating as you'd

expect and his family anecdotes are honestly a thing of joy. I cannot wait for

you to hear the one about the family portrait. I loved my chat with John and I should

say that season two of his brilliant documentary series Things Fell a Part

about the Culture Wars in America is available now on BBC Sounds and it's so worth a listen and if you want to

see John in person he'll be touring the UK in the autumn chatting about his

specialist subject, Psychopaths in John Ronson's Psychopaths, in John Ronson's Psychopath Nights.

So do go book your tickets now at feign.co. UK.

I'll stop talking now and hand over to the man himself.

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