Jon-Jon Goulian: The Man in the Gray Flannel Skirt
Bookworm
KCRW
4.5 • 606 Ratings
🗓️ 25 August 2011
⏱️ 29 minutes
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At age sixteen Jon-Jon Goulian started to wear women's clothes — he couldn't say why. At age forty he wrote this memoir to account for his fascination with androgyny...
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| 0:00.0 | Funds for Bookworm are provided in part by Lannin Foundation. |
| 0:04.0 | Boots! |
| 0:06.0 | Where would we be without boos? |
| 0:12.0 | Where would we be without Gutenberg? |
| 0:16.0 | Even the thought of it so absurd! |
| 0:20.0 | Where would we be without boos, where would we be without books? |
| 0:23.6 | Where would we be without books? |
| 0:25.6 | Where would we be? |
| 0:26.6 | Where would we be without good to bird? |
| 0:30.6 | It's a rhetorical question, sir, but where would we be without books? From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Michael Silverblatt, and this is Bookworm. |
| 0:44.3 | Today, I'm pleased to have as my guest, John John Gullion. |
| 0:47.9 | If you've ever wondered why a generation pierced itself, got tattoos, started wearing |
| 0:53.5 | gender-bending clothes, his new book, |
| 0:56.3 | The Man in the Greyfannel Skirt, May Help Explain What Happened. |
| 1:00.5 | Tell me about how this book came to be written, John, John. |
| 1:04.0 | It came to be written in a burst of, I won't say, inspiration, but manic activity. It was 2008, and I was four months shy of turning 40, |
| 1:21.6 | and I had done just about nothing with my life. I had a law degree I was not using. |
| 1:31.8 | I had a federal clerkship under my belt. |
| 1:35.9 | Never took the bar. |
| 1:38.1 | I had been out of college now for 18 years |
| 1:42.3 | and had only three short-term jobs to show for it. |
| 1:49.8 | And my friends were running out of patience. |
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