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This is Reode Media with Peter Kafka. That is me. I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm

recording this at Vox Media headquarters in New York City. I'm here with John Skipper. Hey, John.

Hey, you never say anything about recording this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We normally stream it live, but in this case, we'll do it on demand. Hello. Hello. Last time I talked to you in a public setting, you were running ESPN. You had that job until, I think, December of last year. You have, like, a variety of titles now. Do you want to to list them all or do you want to explain the most

important one no no the only title i hold is um executive chairman of the de zone group okay i thought

there was perform and it's very confusing because there's an acronym and there's also a holding company

and you're running diszone would you like for me to clear up all this confusion as simply as possible?

Yeah, go for it.

So I'm chairman of the DeZone Group, which is a holding company for a variety of sports media entities,

which we've recently divided into two groups, one called Perform Content,

which is a business-to-business operation, and one which is now called DeZone Media, which is a business to business operation, and one which is now called

DeZone Media, which is business to consumer, and consist entirely of the, not entirely,

consists principally of the over-the-top streaming services that we do around the world.

So you may be seeing or have seen references something called D-A-Z-N, which you're saying, which I'm told by you and others is pronounced

dozone. It's confusing. It's pronounced dezone. All right.

And whatever part of the world you're in. It's less confusing in some parts than the other.

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