John Semley | Haterdom

Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Matt D'Elia

Society & Culture

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2020

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Matt has been called many things. One of the things he is most often called is a ‘hater’— a label he fittingly hates. But is it true? And if it IS true, is that necessarily a bad thing? To figure this out, Matt talks to culture critic John Semley, author of a book Matt loves called “Hater: On The Virtues Of Utter Disagreeability”. Matt and John surprisingly and perhaps disappointingly don’t disagree about much, but that allows them to dig deep into what it means to be a hater, what it means to be CALLED a hater, the difference between hating people versus hating the things they make, why modern movie fans get so mad when you criticize a movie they like, why Rotten Tomatoes is so terrible, why film criticism is so dead, why STARSHIP TROOPERS is so good, why JOJO RABBIT is so bad, how corporations eventually co-opt all cool things— and ultimately why being a ‘hater’ is more important than ever in today’s culture of what John calls ‘calcified consensus’. Also, for the very first time, a guest says “fuck you” to Matt. Matt welcomes this, and can’t wait to have John back on the show so he can say it again.

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0:30.7	Hello, and welcome to Matt Delia is confused.
0:34.0	This is Matt Delia.
0:36.0	And this week's guest is a culture critic named John Semley.
0:40.0	John wrote a book called Hater on the virtues of utter disagreeability, a book I read, and a book I loved, and a book that I felt such a deep kinship with that I wanted to have its
0:57.3	writer on as a guest to discuss its subjects and that writer is John Semley and yeah I think this
1:08.8	this episode was great I mean I we touch on a lot of things that I care a lot about and think a lot about
1:17.6	just sort of on my own and I've been called a hater at various times in my life and I've always sort of been not so much bothered by that but I found it curious because in my own mind I just
1:39.8	think I have strong opinions about things If I don't like them I'm liable to hate them and if I do like them I'm liable to love them.
1:50.8	But I don't think of myself as someone who just knee-jerk hates things and I certainly don't want to hate things.
1:56.0	I go to things wanting to like them.
1:59.0	It's not my fault that they fucking suck.
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