And the John Sally, NBA legend with the Detroit Pistons, the Chicago Bulls, the LA Lakers, played in a lot of finals and dealt with a lot of high pressure moments.

I wanted to know how he deals with nerves.

It seems part of the issue of nerves

when we get into big moments is we think about

how will other people think of me if I win or lose?

No, see that's...

And that creates the nervousness.

You said you think.

The best thing about being a professional athlete

this is gonna people are not gonna like what I'm saying but you have to understand

Remember they used to call guys guy's dumb jocks?

He said, man, he's a dumb job, right?

He doesn't know this, he doesn't know that.

All he knows is sports.

Because when you're doing this, you don't think.

You react.

So there's no thinking involved.

There's reaction.

And when you're doing what you have worked and worked and

repetition to do.

You don't have to think about what happens

when he goes right.

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