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Killer Psyche

John Orr: The Pillow Pyro

Killer Psyche

Audible | Treefort Media

Exhibit C, True Crime

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Former FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong explores the notorious arsonist, John Orr - also known as The Pillow Pyro. John was supposed to be one of the good guys - he was an Arson Investigator with the Glendale Fire Department in California - and he was skilled at determining the point of origin for most fires. But, that may be because he set the majority of them. Candice looks at the mindset of the man who started over 2000 fires and killed 4 people. 

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A listener note, this episode contains adult content and is not suitable for everyone.

0:15.0

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0:24.0

It was closing time for the employees of Ola's home center in South Pasadena, California.

0:30.2

It was just before 8 p.m. on October 10th, 1984, and employees of the store were cleaning

0:37.1

up and getting ready to go home.

0:39.7

It had been relatively quiet that night.

0:42.4

The world series was happening and people were staying in to watch the San Diego Padres

0:47.8

take on the Detroit Tigers.

0:50.4

But there had been a rush of last minute shoppers.

0:54.1

50-year-old Ada Deal, her husband and their two-year-old grandson Matthew had run into the store

1:00.6

to get a few supplies.

1:02.5

The family split up so they could get out fast before the store closed.

1:08.2

As Ada and Matthew walked toward the paint department, smoke began to creep across the

1:13.2

ceiling, then rapidly fill up the room.

1:16.8

A 19-year-old employee, Jim Obden, heard an emergency announcement over the PA system

1:23.2

warning people about the fire.

1:25.6

Jim began to corral customers toward the doors to the outside.

1:30.3

At first he wasn't worried.

1:32.1

The only indication of a fire was the pillar of dark smoke.

1:36.7

So when Jim first encountered Ada Deal and her grandson in the paint section, he told

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