John McWhorter — Thinking Critically about Critical Race Theory

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Glenn Loury

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🗓️ 12 July 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Here is my latest conversation with John McWhorter. We begin with a review of our respective academic careers and how being black has affected our work. We also assess the recent involvement of Al Sharpton and Benjamin Crump in the case of a white Arkansas man who was shot dead in June, under suspicious circumstances, by a police officer during a traffic stop. We close with an extended discussion of critical race theory, which we define carefully and evaluate thoroughly. We agree that CRT should not be banned by law, but we endorse the efforts of parents to weigh-in with their local schools against it.

And, in case you haven’t seen it, we are now taking questions for our next Q&A. Let us know what’s on your mind!

0:00 John McWhorter, master of his craft

5:18 Is John a “black linguist”? Is Glenn a “black economist”?

13:45 Al Sharpton and Benjamin Crump address police violence against white victims

24:25 What we talk about when we talk about CRT

35:35 Is the CRT debate comparable to other debates in education?

43:43 Glenn: It is tyrannical to ban the teaching of CRT

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0:00.0	We are underway John. How are you doing? I'm good Glenn. How are you?
0:05.9	I'm good on things considered. This is Glenn Lowry. This is the Glenn show at we are we we're at
0:12.1	Substack. Glenn Lowry does substack.com. John has a substack too. He doesn't want you to forget that.
0:17.5	I don't. For these Glenn and also Glenn may I please
0:20.6	interject not only is my newsletter at Substack now but Lexicon Valley my podcast has moved
0:26.5	officially now from slate to substack under the umbrella studio of booksmartstudios.org and so
0:34.0	those of you who have liked Lexicon Valley or who would like to sample it please come to Substack
0:38.7	because now I will be represented on Substack in three ways. One my newsletter to my talks with
0:44.8	Glenn and three Lexicon Valley same title is now at Substack. I will be recording the first
0:52.3	substack episode after I finish with Glenn today and it will drop Tuesday after next. So get ready.
1:00.9	John McWater almost wants to say John fucking McWater. You remember that scene from Jerry McWire?
1:08.4	You haven't seen that movie. That's like the one movie I haven't seen. I don't think Tom Cruise
1:13.6	vehicles actually not have bad. But Cuba Gooding and you know show me the money. Cuba Gooding
1:18.9	Jr. is amazing in this. I just never got around to seeing it. Show me the money. That's the
1:25.0	signature quote from that movie. Show me the money. That's a line that Cuba Gooding who's a star
1:31.2	a wide receiver a national football league athlete and Tom Cruise is his agent.
1:40.7	Anyway, anyway John McWater at Substack go ahead and do it John in the Lexicon Valley thing.
1:45.6	I mean, I don't even know if I could do this John. You just sit there in front of the you're not
1:49.7	even talking to anybody. You're lecturing to the microphone for 45 minutes or whatever it is.
1:57.0	Well, you can say which you picture. Yeah, it's you're teaching. You're not looking down at notes or
2:03.3	anything. No, no, no. How do you do it? I mean, it's almost like it's extemporaneous.
2:08.0	Well, I have like an index card of notes like what what's the order of the topics and things like
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