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The Glenn Show

John McWhorter – Sparring over Mamdani, Gaza, and Trump

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

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Video Links

0:00 Zohran Mamdani’s win in the NYC Democratic primaries

12:07 Ground News ad

14:05 The War on Terror and the War in Gaza

28:54 Should Trump fear Mamdani?

32:02 Glenn: Trump is running the table

42:26 John: Glenn, you’re getting caught up in the Trump Show

48:05 Buckley, Reagan, Goldwater, and the legacy of conservatism

53:56 Glenn’s encounters with Willian F. Buckley

59:30 Remembering Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom

Recorded July 7, 2025

Links and Readings

John’s NYT column, “Wokeness Will Always Be with Us”

Peter Beinart’s NYT guest essay, “Democrats Need to Understand That Opinions on Israel Are Changing Fast”

“One Last Time” from Hamilton

Adam Clayton Powell’s “What’s in Your Hand” speech

Sam Tannenhaus’s new book, Buckley: The Life and the Revolution That Changed America

Glenn’s 1991 appearance on Firing Line

Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom’s book, America in Black and White: One Nation, Indivisible

Glenn’s 1997 Atlantic review of America in Black and White



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0:00.0

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0:06.6

As a subscriber, you will receive new episodes on Mondays instead of Fridays and get access to ticket pre-sales to live events, monthly Q&As with Glenn Laurie and John McWhorter, exclusive content and other benefits.

0:21.8

Thank you.

0:23.6

Hey, John.

0:24.8

How are you doing?

0:25.2

Hey, Glenn.

0:25.8

How are you doing?

0:26.9

I'm doing well.

0:28.0

Glenn Lowry here, the Glenn Show.

0:29.8

I'm with John McWhorter, my regular conversation partner.

0:32.3

He teaches at Columbia University Rights for the most important newspaper in the world.

0:37.6

I think I heard him say recently, The New York Times, and is my buddy.

0:42.7

I'm a emeritus professor at ground university.

0:45.6

I am newly appointed as distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

0:53.2

And I'm host of the Glenn Show. Yeah, you didn't know about that.

0:56.1

I didn't know that official part, no.

0:58.7

In fact, in July 1st, I'm a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

1:06.5

And I'm very proud to be able to say that.

1:10.4

So, here we are.

1:11.2

Is that a paid position?

1:14.4

There is a stipend that goes with the appointment, yes.

1:19.2

I'm telling you how much, though.

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