John McWhorter on Why Woke Ideas Harm Minority Communities

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.7 • 963 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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John McWhorter is an author, a member of the Persuasion Board of Advisors, a Columbia University linguist, and a columnist for The New York Times. His latest book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America, argues that we must understand wokeness, quite literally, as a religion. In this week’s conversation, John McWhorter and Yascha Mounk discuss the nature of today’s social progressivism, whether it constitutes a religion, and how we can actually help to reduce racial disparities in the United States. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	BAM, picture this! You're watching your favorite artist,
0:03.4	play. Not that artist!
0:05.4	Ha ha, yeah, that's you!
0:08.0	You look down at the red can in your hand, or is it?
0:11.4	No, it's a Pepsi Max.
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0:28.9	code at UK slash FAQ.
0:32.2	This unspoken notion that the most interesting thing about being black is thinking about how white people see us.
0:39.0	Or don't. Do they see us fully?
0:42.0	And I'm sorry, I have to stand to thwart this and say,
0:45.0	how much does it matter?
0:47.0	And if what you're telling me is,
0:49.0	this white person doesn't see me in my full essence
0:51.0	the way my black friends do, and therefore that affects my success?
0:56.3	Show me how.
0:57.7	Our ancestors, as in civil rights leaders two generations ago, had no idea that we were waiting for white people to be psychologically
1:04.4	pristine. And I think we just tend to forget how utopian we're getting about these things
1:09.7	and it makes black people weak. This obsession with the notion of blackness being how white people
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