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The Good Fight

Jeannie Suk Gersen on the Importance of Due Process

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2021

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Jeannie Suk Gersen is the John H. Watson, Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School and a contributing writer at The New Yorker. She writes widely about the law and its impact on society.   In this week’s conversation, Jeannie Suk Gersen and Yascha Mounk discuss the value of robust debate in law school classrooms, the perils of eroding due process in the name of progress, and the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:30.5

If you say something like it's illegal to teach about critical race theory, what are you going to do?

0:37.5

You might be the kind of person who feels like taking it on and really carving out the thing that you think is critical race theory not teaching but you might also be a person who just says

0:46.2

I'm not going to even bother to teach about race at all and that is something that I'm very concerned about

0:51.4

especially with the environment that we're in.

0:55.0

Even in the absence of laws banning things, we have people self-censoring.

0:59.0

We have teachers self-censoring and teachers saying,

1:02.0

I used to teach this topic, which is about race or sex or

1:05.3

about feminism or about racism or whatever and now I just don't feel like doing it anymore

1:11.8

because it just opens me up to risk, risk of being accused,

1:16.4

either institutionally or just informally accused, and that's the chilling effect.

1:21.3

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

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