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🗓️ 16 May 2025
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0:00 Intro
1:00 What is the “affirmative action myth”?
8:02 Black progress before and after affirmative action
11:41 Ground News ad
13:29 How far does Jason’s critique of affirmative action extend?
17:03 Contesting The Shape of the River
26:37 Respectability, responsibility, and upward mobility
32:40 Is Jason blaming the victims?
35:54 Jason: No one’s buying the reparations argument
43:26 How do figures like Ibram X. Kendi and Nikole Hannah-Jones end up at the center of progressive discourse?
Recorded May 7, 2025
Links and Readings
Jason’s new book, The Affirmative Action Myth: Why Blacks Don’t Need Racial Preferences to Succeed
Jason’s book, Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed
Jason’s book, False Black Power
Jason’s book, Maverick: A Biography of Thomas Sowell
Derek Bok and William G. Bowen’s book, The Shape of the River: Long Term Consequences of Considering Race in College and University Admissions
Melissa Kearney’s book, The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind
An Amos & Andy YouTube playlist
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”
Ibram X. Kendi’s book, How to Be an Antiracist
The Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites Project
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0:23.3 | Hello, everybody. This is Glenn Laurie, and you are listening to and or watching the Glenn Show. |
0:28.8 | I teach at Brown University, and I am with my conversation partner, John McWhorter, every other week here at the Glenn Show. |
0:35.9 | John's a Columbia University professor, and he writes for the New York Times. |
0:39.8 | Our guest this week is Jason Riley. |
0:41.7 | Hello, Jason. |
0:42.9 | How you doing, Glenn? |
0:44.3 | John. |
0:45.6 | Hey. |
0:46.6 | Doing well, doing well. |
0:48.1 | Jason's an old friend. |
0:49.3 | Jason is on the editorial board and writes editorials for the Wall Street Journal. |
0:53.1 | He's also senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. |
0:57.6 | And happily, we're here to talk about Jason's new book, |
1:01.6 | The Affirmative Action Myth. |
1:04.1 | Jason's a prolific author. |
1:06.7 | He's written books like False Black Power. |
1:09.6 | Please stop helping us. He's written a biography of |
1:13.7 | Thomas Soul called Maverick, Thomas Sol, the African American conservative economists of great |
1:19.1 | distinction. And other interventions Jason has made in the public discussion about policy issues. |
1:26.4 | And the book at hand for today is the affirmative action myth. |
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