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The Glenn Show

John McWhorter – Glenn and John Live at Brown University

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

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0:00 Intro

00:31 Prefatory remarks

4:15 Glenn: The Trump administration’s defunding of the universities is mischievous in the extreme

9:06 Ground News ad

11:01 Doesn’t maintaining the preeminence of American universities require diversity of thought?

18:47 John McWhorter has entered the building

20:25 How did higher ed lose the general public’s support?

23:05 The university’s role in public discourse

26:26 Was affirmative action a success or a failure?

31:36 The partisan balance in education funding

42:21 The costs and benefits of tenure

50:09 Can education preserve democracy if students aren’t doing the reading?

1:01:59 Are we irrevocably polarized as a nation?

1:07:28 Q&A: You don’t seem as excited by Trump as you once were. What is disappointing you?

1:11:40 Q&A: If higher ed serves society, why do so many elite grads use their degrees to get rich?

1:16:01 Q&A: How do you teach diversity to students who’ve never spent time around people different from them?

1:19:15 Q&A: What’s the difference between contrarianism and provocation?

1:21:23 Q&A: Should fewer people go to college?

Recorded April 22, 2025

Links and Readings

Michael Sandel’s book, The Tyranny of Merit: What’s Become of the Common Good?

John Stuart Mill’s book, On Liberty

John Milton’a Areopagitica

Alan Bloom’s book, The Closing of the American Mind: How Higher Education Has Failed Democracy and Impoverished the Souls of Today’s Students

John’s new book, Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words

Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

The Great Courses

Fyodor Dostoevsky’s novel, Crime and Punishment

Dostoevsky’s novel, The Brothers Karamazov

Leo Tolsty’s novel, War and Peace

Tolstoy’s novel, Anna Karenina

Plato’s dialogue, The Republic



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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:21.8

Thank you.

0:23.5

Okay.

0:24.0

Good evening, everybody.

0:25.8

We are going to get started with a mini preview of our main event with Professor

0:33.7

Glenn C. Lowry and Professor John McWhorter.

0:36.9

So I will introduce myself. I'll introduce

0:39.2

Professor Lowry. And then we will all keep our fingers crossed about Amtrak. And eventually we'll

0:45.2

introduce Professor McWhorter. We have a series of questions that we will pose for a dialogue

0:51.3

between Professor Lowry and McWhorter, but I'll start it off.

0:56.6

And then we will leave about 10 to 15 minutes for questions.

1:02.9

Okay, so I'm Wendy Schiller.

1:05.2

I'm the interim director of the Watson Institute.

1:07.9

And this is our last public event in our dialogue across difference series at the Watson Institute. And this is our last public event in our dialogue across different series

1:13.6

at the Watson Institute this year. And as some of you may have heard, there's very exciting news.

1:19.9

We have a dean of the new school, the Thomas J. Watson Jr. School of International Public Affairs,

1:26.2

Professor John Friedman of the Econ Economics

1:28.6

Department here at Brown. That was announced yesterday, and so we're all very excited and looking

1:34.0

forward to what he will bring to the table to launch this school. So the dialogue across

1:43.2

different series was launched by Watson this year

1:46.1

to present views on key issues of the day

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