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Hi, this is Glendlaury.

You've tuned in to The Glend Show.

I'm with John McWater every other week and this week with John McWater and joined by

Vincent Lloyd.

Let me introduce John who is in need of no introduction.

He's a professor at Columbia University and writes for the New York Times.

I teach at Brown University.

The Glend Show is sponsored by The Manhattan Institute on Blasch to say that.

I don't mind saying it.

And we were Vincent Lloyd, who's professor of theology and religious studies at Villanova

directs the Black Studies program there and is the author of many books most recently.

Black dignity, the struggle against domination published by Yale University Press.

Vincent has published many books by Stanford University Press and Columbia University Press

and Oxford University Press and it's a prolific writer and thoughtful, philosophically oriented,

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