John McWhorter and Ian Rowe – Who Speaks for Black America?
The Glenn Show
Glenn Loury
4.8 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 April 2023
⏱️ 67 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
0:00 Al Sharpton’s National Action Network still exists, apparently
5:00 MLK’s understanding of America’s contributions to democracy
12:58 Are the “people with three names” grifters or merely limited in their racial vision?
21:07 How do you change the minds of black voters?
30:13 The national black leadership vacuum
36:30 The under-recognized success of the black middle class
41:30 Ian’s got a four-point plan …
47:38 … but what’s the best way to disseminate it? (It’s podcasts.)
51:37 The paradox of Obama and Thomas
1:01:01 How does Glenn know “nobody is coming to save us”?
Recorded April 9, 2023
Links and Readings
Ian’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power
Ian’s charter school network, Vertex Partnership Academies
Al Sharpton’s National Action Network
Pew poll on black political strategy and leadership
AEI’s study, “Black Men: Making It in America”
Richard Reeves’s book, Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It
Thomas Sowell speaking at the 1980 Fairmont Conference
Clarence Thomas’s memoir, My Grandfather’s Son
This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | The Glend Show is brought to you by the Manhattan Institute. |
| 0:11.0 | Please consider becoming a paid subscriber at glendlaury.substac.com. |
| 0:16.8 | As a subscriber, you will receive new episodes on Mondays instead of Fridays and get access |
| 0:22.5 | to exclusive content, ticket pre-sells to lava vents, monthly Q&As with Glendlaury and |
| 0:28.4 | John McWater and other benefits. |
| 0:32.0 | Your contribution will also help to fund grassroots initiatives that empower black development |
| 0:37.2 | across the country as we donate 10% of our profits to the Woodson Center. |
| 0:42.5 | Thank you. |
| 0:43.7 | Yeah, we're all set here at the Glendlaury at the Glendlaury, I teach at Brown University. |
| 0:52.2 | I'm John Paulson, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. |
| 0:55.2 | The Manhattan Institute sponsors the Glendlaury. |
| 0:57.4 | We come every week with new content every other week. |
| 1:01.7 | My conversation partner is John McWater of Columbia University. |
| 1:04.8 | You see him there. |
| 1:06.8 | He also writes regularly for New York Times and this week we're lucky to have Ian Roe who |
| 1:11.0 | is CEO of Vertex Partnership Academies, which is a private school, Charter School to give |
| 1:18.3 | me. |
| 1:19.3 | Charter School. |
| 1:20.3 | We take all these charter schools to public. |
| 1:25.4 | Brandon Johnson and Chicago needs to know about that. |
| 1:28.8 | No, seriously, we should talk about that. |
| 1:31.5 | Ian Roe's also a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute where he runs a shop that's interested |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Glenn Loury, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Glenn Loury and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.