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The Glenn Show

John McWhorter and Don Baton – DEI in the Orchestral World

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

0:00 Is Florence Price’s music worthy of its current popularity?

12:20 The decline of blind auditions

18:27 Do diverse orchestras attract diverse audiences and musicians?

23:26 Why Don is protecting his real identity

27:00 Glenn delivers a soliloquy on humanity

32:06 John: Eliminating blind auditions is “bat s**t crazy”

38:22 Should John’s daughters benefit from affirmative action?

Links and Readings

Don’s Substack, The Podium

Don’s series on Florence Price: Part One, Part Two, Part Three

Florence Price’s Symphony No. 3

Van Cliburn’s performance of Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concerto No. 2

Anthony Tommasini’s NYT piece, “To Make Orchestras More Diverse, End Blind Auditions”

George Walker on YouTube

William Dawson’s Negro Folk Symphony

William Grant Still’s Symphony No. 1

Claudia Goldin and Cecilia Rouse’s article “Orchestrating Impartiality: The Impact of ‘Blind’ Auditions on Female Musicians”

John’s NYT piece, “Stop Making Asian Americans Pay the Price for Campus Diversity”



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The Estimable Linguist from Columbia University and newsletter columnists for the New York

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1:04.1

My conversation partner every other week at the Glendshow and we're joined by Don Baton.

1:11.7

That's a pseudonym, a stage name, a gnome de plume, what do you call that, gnome de

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gare?

1:18.8

Don is an anonymous contributor to the Glendshow today.

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He's involved in the classical music world and publishes under his pseudonym a newsletter

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at Substack called the podium, read comments on all manner of issues having to do with

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