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The Owen Jones Podcast

John McDonnell Forensically Exposes the Tories - and Answers Whether It's Over For Starmer

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Former Labour Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell explains what the Tory Budget really represents, how Labour should pull itself together to offer an inspiring vision - and whether Keir Starmer's crisis-ridden leadership is coming to an end.


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0:00.0

It's been on it to have John McDonnellon though I'm slightly concerned John I've got

0:11.9

to like nervousness because you did an interview in Nevada and within hours their entire

0:16.0

channel got taken off. I'm not getting the rap for that one okay and actually I was I

0:23.2

spoke to Nevada I tweeted out in their support and I was going to raise it in Parliament

0:28.4

but before I had the chance to do that it got put back up again all I'm saying is correlation

0:35.9

the facts speak for themselves whatever happens to you over the next 48 hours I'm not getting the

0:41.2

blame for all right well we'll let the court of public opinion decide that before I start

0:46.2

wait about the budget let's just zoom in on John's background because let's have a look

0:51.2

should we zoom in on John I'll do it one second the trombone there it is

0:57.6

lovely is that so whenever we talk about anything to do with British politics you can

1:02.8

know what that because that would be appropriate actually might well do that in future though

1:08.4

what I've done is what's happened is is that I usually operate from my study and I have been

1:14.0

throughout covid but at the moment it's so piled up with files books and all the rest I've

1:19.2

moved into the next room which is my dining room where I usually during covid I've been using it

1:25.6

for learning the trombone that's been my covid project was to learn the trombone because it's

1:30.9

been an ambition for quite a while I'm not dexterous enough to do a tromba or anything like that

1:36.0

so I thought what I'll do is I'll try and I do once a week I have a half an hour think what is now

1:42.1

a lesson on the trombone with a young man it online that he takes me through teaching me to read

1:47.1

music which is wonderful I just love it and then we do a practice on the trombone I get set homework

1:52.8

which I copy I try and do each day a little bit the neighbours are not bad they haven't they've

1:58.7

stopped petitioning to look at the moment so that's okay and the family usually go out for now

2:04.2

when I do it I am I mean I really enjoy I'm not much cop obviously but I really enjoy

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