So I'm very honoured to be joined by Kamenford of Interlate Britain and also an internet sensation.

I don't know if you must be sick of hearing about this, but you are literally a viral sensation

in a clip which has been watched by millions and millions of people across social media.

Now for those who haven't seen this clip, which you almost certainly have,

let's just have a little extra act just because I have watched it about 15,000 times

it hasn't got old. Let's have a look. What do you do for a living, Kamen? I'm a carpenter.

A carpenter, right. So how safe is that for the climate? Well, I work with timber which is

a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. I also work with trees that have been cut

down then, don't you? It's a sustainable building practice. How is it sustainable if you're

killing trees? Because it's regenerative. You can grow trees. Right. Well, you can grow

all sorts of things, right? Well, you can't grow concrete. You can.

See you, Kamen. Still funny every time.

That's funny. Kamen, you need an Oscar for the dead pan, the dead. I wouldn't be able to

only have to do that. I'd crack it up. Oh, my word. Do you know what? I think it's funny about

Kamen. Do you ever watch Jam, this Chris Morris sketch show? No, Chris Morris rings a bell, though.

Yeah, he did like Brass Eye and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I've heard someone say, is this a Brass Eye

sketch? It does come across like a Brass Eye sketch, but there's also a jam was a very surreal,

quite dark comedy series he did. And in it, there is a sketch about people who were,

I suppose, terminally thick, who were employed because they can never lose an argument,

because they're so stupid, they don't know, they've lost an argument. And that is exactly what's

happened here, because Mike Graham, the shock shock on talk radio, you kind of think that he might

have thought, well, actually, national radio saying, you can grow concrete bit silly. The stupidest

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